http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/ World of Raids Blue Tracker en http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21042556798-if-blizzard-cant-even-get-tank-balance-right.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21042556798-if-blizzard-cant-even-get-tank-balance-right.html Ghostcrawler : On Sartharion +3, cutting-edge guilds who normally tank with a warrior would (perhaps somewhat begrudgingly) use a DK to tank instead because the benefit was so massive. The same thing happened on Vezax where good guilds replaced their warrior tanks with DKs. Death knights were overpowered at the time. We are not seeing the kind of massive swappin...]]> Tank Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:05:09 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21251926152-blizz-using-itemization-to-keep-pallys-ontop.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21251926152-blizz-using-itemization-to-keep-pallys-ontop.html Ghostcrawler : Both items have 179 stam and 76 defense. Generally, I might suggest "Is this a bug?" and not "Obvious bias!" Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:18:12 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21035178557-questions-about-feral-tank-in-cataclysm.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21035178557-questions-about-feral-tank-in-cataclysm.html Ghostcrawler : We talked about druids in bear form also getting AP from strength. Strength won't appear on leather and no piece should have Str and Agi together, so it's not like they would really double dip. That lets us still have tanking necks, rings and cloaks with strength on them that are attractive to all 4 tanking classes. Almost all the items in the gam...]]> Tank Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:10:37 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21043886521-why-no-heroic-strike-fix.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21043886521-why-no-heroic-strike-fix.html Ghostcrawler : We have become pretty dissatisfied with the on-next swing mechanic. Come Cataclysm, we'd love to get rid of all of them. Obviously that will necessitate some pretty significant changes in how warriors generate threat or do damage (unlike Maul or Rune Strike, Heroic Strike gets a lot of use outside of tanking), which makes it too risky a change for ...]]> Tank Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:10:46 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21048546495-badge-gear-with-block-value-block-rating.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21048546495-badge-gear-with-block-value-block-rating.html Ghostcrawler : If you are talking about a certain badge chest, there is no block on that item. It has bonus armor, expertise and defense. Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:19:47 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21034435375-warriors-are-like-republicans.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21034435375-warriors-are-like-republicans.html Ghostcrawler : Let's keep politics out of the forums please, and try to post something more constructive and less trollish. Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:53:28 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21043884777-all-the-qq-threads-and-gc.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/21043884777-all-the-qq-threads-and-gc.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: Ghostcrawler once said that Warriors don't use Shield Slam that often. .....He clearly has no idea what he's talking about. Uh, I think this may turn into an epic thread and all, but I don't think I would have said that. Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:21:02 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20860801526-divine-intervention-change.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20860801526-divine-intervention-change.html Ghostcrawler : It could cause Forbearance.... Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:16:55 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677865422-paladin-vs-warrior-why-even-use-a-warrior.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677865422-paladin-vs-warrior-why-even-use-a-warrior.html Ghostcrawler : We don't delete threads in which players disagree or want to point out problems with the design. If we did, the forums would have about three threads in them. We sometimes lock threads that are generally not contributing, but we leave them there so players can see that they were locked. We generally only delete a thread if it is overly offensive, ...]]> Tank Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:35:53 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677336086-niche-advantages-vs-real-advantages.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677336086-niche-advantages-vs-real-advantages.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: This is why, GC, that differences in EH, Mitigation and Avoidance are so much more profound than if a class has the ability to sunder or to cleanse or to Death grip. When some tanks have 10% advantages in these fields, those advantages persist in EVERY encounter. Assuming I'm understanding you correctly, we don't balance tank survivability...]]> Tank Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:08:28 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20860998894-mocking-blow.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20860998894-mocking-blow.html Ghostcrawler : As several have pointed out, this was just a tooltip clarification. The ability hasn't changed. I agree with the notion that there is less of a use for Mocking Blow in the toolbox these days where tanks generally maintain enough threat, at least relative to the "Wait for five Sunders" days. Ghostcrawler Lead Syst...]]> Tank Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:54:22 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677235952-if-loh-is-gonna-cause-forbearance.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677235952-if-loh-is-gonna-cause-forbearance.html Ghostcrawler : The change we're thinking about now is that LoH only causes Forbearance if you cast it on yourself. A paladin healing a paladin tank wouldn't run into the Forbearance problem. We don't think the paladin tank needs to be able to stack both tools at once. If you know big damage is coming you can use Divine Protection. If you managed to take the big ...]]> Tank Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:50:34 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677635586-17-runestrike-is-nice-but.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677635586-17-runestrike-is-nice-but.html Ghostcrawler : The fundamental problem is that DKs are allowed to tank from three trees. (And no, we're not going to change that.) A Feral druid uses different buttons when tanking than when doing dps. The same is true of the paladin and warrior. We want tanks to use different buttons for a couple of different reasons. One is that it's not fair to do as much dam...]]> Tank Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:08:22 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20860798257-icecrown-radiance-incompetence-or-arrogance.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20860798257-icecrown-radiance-incompetence-or-arrogance.html Ghostcrawler : It's an MMO. Stuff changes. If you want to play a game where the designers don't continually tinker with things to try and improve them, you might want to pick up a 10-year old game from the bargain bins. I'd be happy to provide my favorite list of classics. :) Blizzard developers are our own greatest critics. We've changed our minds over and over...]]> Tank Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:58:05 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677864812-don-t-nerf-my-sacred-shield-bro.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677864812-don-t-nerf-my-sacred-shield-bro.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: I disagree. There is way too much effort involved trying to add new tools to every single class, trying to keep them balanced, making sure the ability is useful for every spec, making sure it's useful in PvE on every single fight and making sure it's useful in every type of PvP situation. Where do you draw the line? We agree with Communis...]]> Tank Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:44:22 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677634653-better-watch-what-you-say.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677634653-better-watch-what-you-say.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: If you talk to Ghostcrawler about stamina, he'll just respond with: "hurr if you think avoidance doesn't matter just turn your back lol hurp derp" This is not a good post. If you can't understand why, then this may not be a good forum for you. We also ask that you do not create new threads to discuss locked threads. If we had wanted them...]]> Tank Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:23:11 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677673129-note-to-gc.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677673129-note-to-gc.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: If you talk to Ghostcrawler about stamina, he'll just respond with: "hurr if you think avoidance doesn't matter just turn your back lol hurp derp" If you try to talk to this poster about stamina, he won't be able to respond because he is taking a brief break from the forums. Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Des...]]> Tank Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:18:52 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677232049-tank-eh-being-looked-at-in-3-3-at-all.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677232049-tank-eh-being-looked-at-in-3-3-at-all.html Ghostcrawler : I am going to attempt to explain the disconnect the community and the developers have over effective health. When I first learned to tank, long before I came to Blizzard, I learned that effective health is a measurement of your stamina in relationship to your armor. This is a pretty easy number to generate. It's reasonable to include say shield bl...]]> Tank Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:03:35 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677632379-icewell-radiance-is-in.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677632379-icewell-radiance-is-in.html Ghostcrawler : Our original estimations for tank avoidance would have worked fine had we not decided to add extra tiers of gear to reward heroic boss kills halfway through the expansion. The Cataclysm design will keep tank avoidance at more manageable levels. The loss of defense skill counts for a lot right there. We are also considering giving bosses expertise ...]]> Tank Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:19:33 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677352542-chill-of-the-throne-tanking-and-you.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677352542-chill-of-the-throne-tanking-and-you.html Daelo : For Icecrown Citadel, we are implementing a spell that will affect every enemy creature in the raid. The spell, called Chill of the Throne, will allow creatures to ignore 20% of the dodge chance of their melee targets. So if a raid's main tank had 30% dodge normally, in Icecrown Citadel they will effectively have 10%. Why are we doing this? The h...]]> Tank Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:03:09 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677231429-pally-tears-and-nerd-rage.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677231429-pally-tears-and-nerd-rage.html Ghostcrawler : Threads like this are why you can't have nice things. Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:55:43 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677631372-if-they-nerf-loh-i-m-done.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677631372-if-they-nerf-loh-i-m-done.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: Over it... seriously think that'll be the final straw for me to /cancel and not bother with the next expansion... I've tried to locate an official notice abotu Lay on Hands, but can't find any, on the official patch notes, so i hope this is all some kind of horrible rumor.. I'd like a response from GC.. asap on this, Lay on Hands is an i...]]> Tank Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:54:01 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677581321-no-reason-to-roll-dk-or-warrior.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677581321-no-reason-to-roll-dk-or-warrior.html Ghostcrawler : Crosses the line... actually several at once. Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:42:29 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677228769-divine-sacrifice.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677228769-divine-sacrifice.html Ghostcrawler : I'll try to explain this all. The old (3.2) model of "raid wall" where you get to essentially Shield Wall your entire raid by bubbling to avoid the excessive damage was overpowered and we were increasingly starting to balance around it. The new (PTR) model is that Diving Sacrifice applies to the party, not raid. It can absorb 40% of your health...]]> Tank Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:23:33 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677630318-a-thread-for-people-who-want-balance.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20677630318-a-thread-for-people-who-want-balance.html Ghostcrawler : We only recognize two types of classes: Can respec to fulfill a different role = hybrid. Cannot respec to fulfill a different role = pure. The roles are tank, healing and damage. In our design, having two healing trees (priest) or half a tanking tree (druid) or three dps trees (DK) does not put these classes in different categories of hybridnes...]]> Tank Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:59:41 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20143777004-why-cant-bosses-have-expertise.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20143777004-why-cant-bosses-have-expertise.html Ghostcrawler : It's something we actually talk about quite a bit. We won't do it for Icecrown, but it could happen in the future. The basic problem is that bosses don't scale with gear. Their health and damage go up. That's it. You might avoid a first tier boss 30% of the time and a final tier boss 60% of the time. That means when that final boss hits you, he ne...]]> Tank Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:37:36 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20437376814-gear-score-rant.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20437376814-gear-score-rant.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: Your shirt is insufficiently epic. Sorry. We actually talked today about adding an item level 300 shirt that did absolutely nothing but mess with mods that attempt to boil down players to gear scores. :) Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:46:45 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20442618251-pallypower-required.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20442618251-pallypower-required.html Ghostcrawler : I don't think it is required. Everyone's definition of required is going to vary quite a bit but very few mods are actually required in my experience. Building an in-game UI to handle paladin buffs is something we would like to do for Cataclysm (then again, so is "overhaul every aspect of the game.") It was once a goal to make every class UI the ...]]> Tank Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:50:24 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/eu-forums/11155636410-tier-10-bonuses-feedback.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/eu-forums/11155636410-tier-10-bonuses-feedback.html Ancilorn : The tier-10 set bonuses have recently been released on the PTR and we would like to get your feedback on each of them. The items will soon be available on the PTR for additional testing, but we welcome your initial impressions and theory crafting thoughts as well. To properly organize feedback, please format responses as: [CLASS]:[SPEC] 2 piece &n...]]> Tank Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:42:46 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20143783220-t10-set-bonus-thread.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20143783220-t10-set-bonus-thread.html Nethaera : Feel free to use the sticky post at the top of the forum for any specific feedback on these bonuses- http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20140813509&sid=1 "The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." - Lewis Thomas Community Team Member...]]> Tank Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:44:08 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20140813509-tier-10-set-bonuses-feedback.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/20140813509-tier-10-set-bonuses-feedback.html Nethaera : The tier-10 set bonuses have recently been released on the PTR and we would like to get your feedback on each of them. The items will soon be available on the PTR for additional testing, but we welcome your initial impressions and theory crafting thoughts as well. To properly organize feedback, please format responses as: [CLASS]:[SPEC] 2 piece &...]]> Tank Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:42:54 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820640986-wtb-ap-debuff-so-i-can-do-my-job.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820640986-wtb-ap-debuff-so-i-can-do-my-job.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: Building a group with the appropriate buffs/debuffs is part of the game. Yes. We made it much, much easier to get those buffs and debuffs than ever before. But you still can't say make a raid of 10 rogues (or even a tank, a healer and 8 rogues) and then say "bring the player, not the class" should let you be as competitive as a raid comp t...]]> Tank Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:26:34 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820331337-is-onyxia-deep-breathing-more.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820331337-is-onyxia-deep-breathing-more.html Nethaera : Quote: I just wish there was a place we could tank her where we wouldn't have to worry about whelps... More dots? "When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it happened or not." - Mark Twain Community Team Member...]]> Tank Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:12:11 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820420063-please-tell-me-that-it-gets-more-difficult.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820420063-please-tell-me-that-it-gets-more-difficult.html Ghostcrawler : My level one paladin feels really powerful. I assume that translates to level 80 Coliseum, yes? Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:00:00 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820327695-feral-mt-representation.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820327695-feral-mt-representation.html Ghostcrawler : You're welcome to argue that Ferals aren't fun to play for one reason or another or that they are too valuable in healing roles or having too much fun as Moonkin or cats. Still, I have a strong suspicion that if they conveyed an enormous advantage over other tanks for difficult fights that raids would still find a way to use them. "Well guys, our ...]]> Tank Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:54:57 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820877680-cataclysm-raids-requiring-2-3-tanks.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820877680-cataclysm-raids-requiring-2-3-tanks.html Ghostcrawler : We think we can design better encounters that generally take 1-3 tanks in 25-player content and 1-2 in 10-player content. There will probably be exceptions from time to time, such as the occasional caster tank (Maulgar and Razuvious perhaps). It's very easy to get burned out on raiding, and we think having fights that all felt the same would contr...]]> Tank Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:05:27 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820323342-tank-balance-and-encounter-design.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820323342-tank-balance-and-encounter-design.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: A thought that probably was needed long ago. But the truth is, players act a specific way due to encounter mechanics. Encounter mechanics are designed a certain way because of what Blizzard sees that players can do. Avoidance levels were too high. Blizzard makes bosses hit for 80% of a tank's hp because they otherwise avoid too much. T...]]> Tank Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:37:37 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820323058-how-to-fix-warriors-the-right-way.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820323058-how-to-fix-warriors-the-right-way.html Ghostcrawler : Quote: Bumping this every day until at least one of these changes make it into 3.2.2. Then the thread will get locked, and your fellow warriors might think you less of a hero than what you're apparently going for. [Not tracked] Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:17:09 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820323808-eh-and-cds-must-be-balanced.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820323808-eh-and-cds-must-be-balanced.html Ghostcrawler : EH is very important. But it is not the all there is to tank balance. I suspect even the players that first came up with that way of describing survivability would admit that it gets focused on too much these days. Ghostcrawler Lead Systems Designer...]]> Tank Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:39:47 +0000 http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820633566-more-causes-high-threat-abilities.html http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/19820633566-more-causes-high-threat-abilities.html Ghostcrawler : High threat abilities are always going to be part of the game for the simple reason that we don't want tanks to do as much damage as dps specs, but they need to generate more threat than the dps specs. It only gets to be a problem when those abilities don't scale with gear or the tank spec is so woeful at dps that it's impossible to solo or contri...]]> Tank Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:15:26 +0000