WotLK Beta Build - 8885
#21
Posted 29 August 2008 - 10:26 PM
Ebon Hold (DK Starting Zone Primarily)
Dalaran
Crystalsong
Sholazar
Violet Hold
Utgarde
Nexus
Chamber of Aspects
And additional music for the other zones.
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#24
Posted 30 August 2008 - 12:42 AM
Use it on some caster fully buffed ready to blow a big cd, do minimal threat attacks for 6 seconds and either buff threat on a tank or buff dps on another dps.
very nice idea indeed. Confirmed
#25
Posted 30 August 2008 - 12:53 AM
schuetz95 said:
hunters with KJ bow are retarded (dps wise) btw....
Oh, of course, buff rogues so that the standard rogue does the same damage as a hunter with a lengendary bow. How many hunters are running around with that bow anyway?? Seriously, stop whining about your damage and l2p.
#27
Posted 30 August 2008 - 01:48 AM
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EDIT: Checked it on BETA myself it increases spell power by 100 but in "C" window it shows only on "Bonus Healing"
EDIT2: Also noticed that achievements button gone
#29
Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:08 AM
wisher said:
A rogue with full sunwell AND glaives can barely compete with a hunter also SW geared but without the bow. Hunter are also ranged,so compare that with the nightmare of melee range abilities from bosses and don't need to move around like melee DPS. Not counting that if a hunter manages to pull aggro having a 30 sec cooldown full aggro wipe, he really should think about leaving WoW. I agree that rogues are quite OP in PvP, if they are up to blow every cooldown, but in PvE with the buffs other DPS are getting, rogue sure needs some stuff.
YEEEPEEE Mut doesn't require to be behind anymore!!!!
#30
Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:19 AM
FuzioN said:
And give them an raid buff like everyone else and make their dps the same same as everyone else.
I'm confused how Cloak of Shadows is in any way shape or form a "raid buff", unless they have changed it in WotLK. Being able to remove magic effects from yourself is not a raid buff. Blind and sap have little to no benefit to a raid. Besides, neither of which are a buff in any way. They are a CC. This is different from a "buff". Idiot.
FuzioN said:
should be dealing same dps.
For instance as most of the retard rogues say, LOLLOL shadowpriest deal same dmg as me!? i quit cuz they can go out of shadowform and heal!
or this one LOOOL a feral druid same dps as ME!? he can go bear and tank!? i cant!?
That's the point. If everybody did the exact same damage, nobody would ever bring a rogue. Why would you have somebody who can only DPS when you can have somebody who can do equal DPS but switch out and heal in a pinch? Or somebody who could change forms and tank in a bind? A 15% damage buff to a single target isn't a "raid buff" either. It's a single target buff. Besides, are we even sure the cooldown? Probably 3 - 5 minutes.
FuzioN said:
Same goes for us fucking feral druids, Wich means if we put on our imba dps gear we will only be able to OT a trash ad if we are now OVERGEARED!
So an boss fight with like 1 boss and 5 adds you put the feral druid with tanking gear(cuz you are progressing) on the add his dps will be shit he cant be same dps as you.
Once again. Three players. Player A does a hypothetical 1,000 DPS. Player B does a hypothetical 1,000 DPS and has the ability to do shitty heals. Player C does a hypothetical 1,000 DPS and has the ability to off tank a weak add, or at the very least distract a weak add for longer than Player A.
You choose the two you want to bring.
FuzioN said:
Not worth responding to. But I do want to quote the best part.
FuzioN said:
I agree. In fact, I think they should remove all classes from the game and simply make everybody play as a new class I have thought up. It's called the MMORPGer (pronounce mah·mor·pah·ger, as the great Yahtzee would say). He has the ability to tank, dps, heal, have all professions, use all items and equipment, and of course has all buffs. He doesn't use mana or energy or rage or runes, he simply has a bar that says "I'M UNORIGINAL" in it and never depletes.
#31
Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:37 AM
#32
Posted 30 August 2008 - 03:51 AM
thanks blizzard, you are clearly taking the right steps to kill spriests.
I remember some time ago they were saying that a big patch was coming for shadow priests, it probably went into the trash with the mana battery changes (it's quite impressive that the mana regen of shadow priests will go to -other- raid people and not on ourself depending of the mana level of raid members...but that's just a detail when you see all the cumulated nerfs we have now)
Xyu
#33
Posted 30 August 2008 - 04:03 AM
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Finally! I liked having music ingame, but I started to really hate the login screen music http://new.worldofraids.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/http://www.worldofraids.com/forums/iPhorum/smilies/mad.gif especially with my rather long loading times.
With powers of crow, cat, cheetah, and bear!
#34
Posted 30 August 2008 - 04:07 AM
What does that mean? Can someone please explain, thanks.
Aspect of the viper changed: The hunter takes on the aspect of the viper, instantly regenerating mana equal to 100% of the damage done by any ranged attack or ability, but reduces your total damage done by 50%. Only one Aspect can be active at a time.
Why even change this? Its probably better for mana regen but -50% damage too? I know we'd only use it for an autoshot or two before switching back to hawk, but still, don't think they needed to change it in the first place.
Oh and WOW to the new leatherworking enchants.
Edit: Actually, after thinking ablout how mages and pallas will be doing 0 damage during their evocate and we can still do 50%, and with a few lucky crits, this is in fact a nice BUFF. We'd never run oom and with the pot nerf its even better.
#35
Posted 30 August 2008 - 04:17 AM
Xyu said:
thanks blizzard, you are clearly taking the right steps to kill spriests.
I remember some time ago they were saying that a big patch was coming for shadow priests, it probably went into the trash with the mana battery changes (it's quite impressive that the mana regen of shadow priests will go to -other- raid people and not on ourself depending of the mana level of raid members...but that's just a detail when you see all the cumulated nerfs we have now)
Xyu
There's at least a dozen more patches to come, are you really already resigned to Shadow Priests getting nothing from any of them? You must be fun to hang out with. Please note, only last week people were bitching about Rogues being over looked...yet here we are, 10 minutes after a new patch and people are complaining about Rogues getting too much love. Just think, in a fortnight, it could be Shadow Priests being moaned about in the exact same way.
To be frank, this "Blizzard is ignoring my class" has to stop. It's so pointless at this stage it's unreal. Wait until you see what hits live, since the concept of BETA tests is lost on you...as is your choice of location for expressing your concern.
#36
Posted 30 August 2008 - 04:48 AM
Deployed said:
To be frank, this "Blizzard is ignoring my class" has to stop. It's so pointless at this stage it's unreal. Wait until you see what hits live, since the concept of BETA tests is lost on you...as is your choice of location for expressing your concern.
well, I just wonder why priests are not being looked at for months now,
mages, rogues, hunters, ... all get patches every 3 days.
Don't tell we will be able to adjust a class in a few weeks only, this is a major mistake imho.
If they really want to balance all classes together, they should do so at the same time, not one by one.
Xyu
#37
Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:12 AM
ayech said:
Rogues were about the strongest and most overpowered class in both PVE and PVP and just keep getting boosted? What the hell is wrong with blizzard, these changes are insane?!
Warlocks have been getting nerfed sinds patch 1.1 and at the moment are actually one of the weaker classes, and they dont give a beep about that?
This change has actually made me lose interest in playing wow by an additional 75%, Jesus christ...
I don't even care about rerolling rogue because it would be too easy..
less Q_Q about locks move along
#38
Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:23 AM
ayech said:
Rogues were about the strongest and most overpowered class in both PVE and PVP and just keep getting boosted? What the hell is wrong with blizzard, these changes are insane?!
Warlocks have been getting nerfed sinds patch 1.1 and at the moment are actually one of the weaker classes, and they dont give a beep about that?
This change has actually made me lose interest in playing wow by an additional 75%, Jesus christ...
I don't even care about rerolling rogue because it would be too easy..
Rofl, Warlocks been nerfed since 1.1? Get your facts straight m8, they have been buffed a lot since the early versions, I still remember playing my underpowered Warlock back then.
Warlocks got a much needed buff since then (especially in TBC) and are now at a somewhat balanced state (no class is ever balanced).
I do agree that these are some really nice buffs for the Rogues (of which I have 2, a Nelf one and Undead one), which one may argue if theese buffs are really needed.
I do feel that Rogues gets a little too much love, since the beggining Rogues where always working pretty much perfect, and with these changes they are once again a awesome class to play.
*Mutilate no longer requires to be behind the target.
Do you know how much better this Mutilate spec makes? This is a welcomed change, because Mutilate is good, but requiting to be behind a target is really annoying and makes it a but useless in PvE grind if you dont got awesome gear.
Damn, I feel like switching my Shaman to my Rogue again seeing as Shamans are still sub-par so far in the expansion and Rogues are going to be king again.
#39
Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:38 AM
Swiftfeet said:
What does that mean? Can someone please explain, thanks.
Aspect of the viper changed: The hunter takes on the aspect of the viper, instantly regenerating mana equal to 100% of the damage done by any ranged attack or ability, but reduces your total damage done by 50%. Only one Aspect can be active at a time.
Why even change this? Its probably better for mana regen but -50% damage too? I know we'd only use it for an autoshot or two before switching back to hawk, but still, don't think they needed to change it in the first place.
Oh and WOW to the new leatherworking enchants.
Edit: Actually, after thinking ablout how mages and pallas will be doing 0 damage during their evocate and we can still do 50%, and with a few lucky crits, this is in fact a nice BUFF. We'd never run oom and with the pot nerf its even better.
sounds not too bad
#40
Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:44 AM
Xyu said:
mages, rogues, hunters, ... all get patches every 3 days.
Don't tell we will be able to adjust a class in a few weeks only, this is a major mistake imho.
If they really want to balance all classes together, they should do so at the same time, not one by one.
Xyu
actually they said that they'll do the balancing at the end, when all classes seem to be ready.

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