Kil'jaeden US first kill by Deus Vox
#25
Posted 27 May 2008 - 09:56 AM
hi momentum
Blondi - www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Laughing+Skull&n=Blondi
Stunlol - http://www.wowarmory...Skull&n=Stunlol
Stunlol - http://www.wowarmory...Skull&n=Stunlol
#27
Posted 27 May 2008 - 02:09 PM
Telennar said:
Congrats, and it's nice to see a raid make up that utilises some of the considered "off-specs". I play a retri pally myself and it's good to know that there are some guilds who believe they are useful (even if it is only one per raid).
I think it's quite silly tbh, taking anohter class instead of a retri pala will ALLWAYS benefit the raid more, no matter what you say.
#29
Posted 27 May 2008 - 02:57 PM
Grats on the kill. I had no idea someone in the Vindication battlegroup was that far in progress. Was fun seeing someone I saw in BGs this weekend listed - Slawnik.
Squishface - Malygos
PS: In response to Tharka: I could see how they needed a 2nd paladin buff and a prot warrior would have brought less to the encounter. Bringing a holy paladin would have subtracted from an OP resto shaman slot most likely.
Squishface - Malygos
PS: In response to Tharka: I could see how they needed a 2nd paladin buff and a prot warrior would have brought less to the encounter. Bringing a holy paladin would have subtracted from an OP resto shaman slot most likely.
#34
Posted 28 May 2008 - 01:56 AM
Tharka said:
I think it's quite silly tbh, taking anohter class instead of a retri pala will ALLWAYS benefit the raid more, no matter what you say.
That's so wrong in so many ways.
When ret paladins can push 2200 dps on brutallus (which is more than arms warriors do and 200ish less than the best dual warglaive furies), bringing a ret pally on an hard fight where 3% raid crit and mana and health regeneration for the whole raid will be quite handy.
If you're willing to take 1400 dps shadowpriests for utility, not taking 1800 dps ret paladins makes very little sense.
#35
Posted 28 May 2008 - 02:15 AM
Visanideth said:
That's so wrong in so many ways.
When ret paladins can push 2200 dps on brutallus (which is more than arms warriors do and 200ish less than the best dual warglaive furies), bringing a ret pally on an hard fight where 3% raid crit and mana and health regeneration for the whole raid will be quite handy.
If you're willing to take 1400 dps shadowpriests for utility, not taking 1800 dps ret paladins makes very little sense.
When ret paladins can push 2200 dps on brutallus (which is more than arms warriors do and 200ish less than the best dual warglaive furies), bringing a ret pally on an hard fight where 3% raid crit and mana and health regeneration for the whole raid will be quite handy.
If you're willing to take 1400 dps shadowpriests for utility, not taking 1800 dps ret paladins makes very little sense.
I guess most fury warriors are bad! 2900 dps by a fury warrior? (ok so he had fist off KJ
#36
Posted 28 May 2008 - 02:37 AM
Gilg said:
I guess most fury warriors are bad! 2900 dps by a fury warrior? (ok so he had fist off KJ
)
Highest dps recorded for brutallus from a fury warrior is 2662. The average is around 2400. The highest recorded for a ret paladin is about 2200, averaging between 1900 and 2000.
Considering the impact warglaives have on that fight, and considering the obscene difference in utility between a ret paladin and a fury warrior, I don't see who could consider a ret paladin any less useful.
#37
Posted 28 May 2008 - 06:36 AM
#39
Posted 28 May 2008 - 07:41 AM
Visanideth said:
The highest recorded for a ret paladin is about 2200, averaging between 1900 and 2000.
I wonder where you get these numbers... cause when I look arround on WWS reports I see ret paladins doing 1700-1900 on Brutallus. I think you are looking at blood knights only cause the average paladin is doing far from 2k DPS from what I can see.
Anyway from what I can see on Kil'jaeden, it's wise to limit the amount of paladins you take, which is actualy to general trend looking at the top 4. I dunno how other guilds are expierencing it but the stuns on the "class calls" are very annoying. I guess you could just limit the amount of holy paladins & take a retribution one instead...

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