Raid Stacking in WotLK, QA, Beta Blues

WoRBot · 08-23-2008, 04:04 PM

Raid Stacking in WotLK, Beta Blues.

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fizyx · 08-23-2008, 05:32 PM

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Raid Stacking in WotLK, Beta Blues.

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These blue posts just keep making me more and more sad :\ Wheres the rogue love? Throw us a fricking bone here, please. All the other classes are getting all kinds of stuff, and we get jack all... and when we DO get information, they post it in other forums and don't tell US anything! *coughmageforumscough* I put up with the rogue problems since just after the game came out... but I may be done with my rogue after this, as much as I love her. Its very frustrating to see the other classes get issues looked at/fixed, while we just get ignored :\

Bloodyhealer · 08-23-2008, 05:34 PM

rogues are op allrdy

, hmm some they u will get love /soothe

fizyx · 08-23-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloodyhealer

rogues are op allrdy

, hmm some they u will get love /soothe

That's what I'm worried about... TBC beta, everyone said 'just be patient, they'll get to us!' and in the end... we got like 2 weeks of testing, and none of our major issues were addressed. They had to go back and fix them all in later patches (buffing mut crit rate anyone? Poison immune bosses?) Those were NOT new issues, those were all things that had been well known previously, as far back as the Alpha >.<

Kaneiac · 08-23-2008, 06:57 PM

Storm Peaks is closed again?

Great.

Blarg · 08-23-2008, 07:27 PM

Woot for the much needed incoming changes to SE =)

Swiftfeet · 08-23-2008, 07:30 PM

lol love beeing a hunter right now, everytime I come on this site theres a huge blue about hunters

Xixa · 08-23-2008, 07:58 PM

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But don't expect to get 100% avoidance any time soon.

sure np, 99% is enough ;P

irutan · 08-23-2008, 11:31 PM

I sure hope Blizz won't rush rogues changes again, PvE is in dire need of buffs, for PvP dunno much but i'd say leave it as it is, seems fine now. Just give us some Pve love, i'm tired of having to be online 1h before raidtime to fight for our only spot in raid with the other 4 rogues

Anykaschala · 08-23-2008, 11:43 PM

I can't say that I'm encouraged by this raid stacking post. Since it seems they want to have everyone with near the same buffs, it will definitely leave classes behind. For example, why bring an enhancement shaman when a deathknight can do the same thing. Might as well bring in another rogue because it does more dps.

This is just one example, and I'm sure there are numerous and contradictory ones as well. I'm not really very encouraged about WotLK at this point, everything I here seems to be a dumbing down of raids, and instead of more class diversity they seem to want, I think it will have the opposite effect.

Meaning, once the buffs are covered, and it will take less people to buff the raid since most are raid-wide, then the hybrids will disappear for the dps classes like mages, rogues, and warlocks....

At this point, I see more paladin and deathknight tanks, as they bring better raid buffing capabilities, and more disappearance of ferals and warriors because of their limited buffs.

superjongen · 08-24-2008, 01:31 AM

Just remember thare are only 2.5 raiding spots per class.
Blizz can't make every spec needed and you need a minimum amount of healers. If all raids buffs would stack you wouldn't bring pure dps like rogues, seeing as their dps wouldn't ne beru good compared to all the utility every other class can bring.

This is a good thing and if they do proper testing at 80 it will make for a more balanced game.

Shjinta · 08-24-2008, 04:55 AM

I honestly believe... That Arthas shouldn't be killed... a man as powerful as him taken out by 10 wimpy level 80s and 25 wimpy level 80s doesn't do all the build up on him justice.. not at all.

elitenls · 08-24-2008, 05:20 AM

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I honestly believe... That Arthas shouldn't be killed... a man as powerful as him taken out by 10 wimpy level 80s and 25 wimpy level 80s doesn't do all the build up on him justice.. not at all.

It was ok for Gruul, Magtheridon, Vashj, Kael'thas, Illidan and Kil'jaden though?

At the end of the day, he's just another larger than life badass that needs to be bitch-slapped by <SK Gaming> and the likes. :P

Hic · 08-24-2008, 06:07 AM

for the crying rogues, all this is good. If you don't need 5 shamans per raid to have all the buffs, for example, and only 2, there are 3 extra spots that can be filled with the "pure" classes.

the ones that should cry are the hybrid / support ones, since one of each will do... and sometimes not even that (due to the buffs not stacking, one person for the crit buff is enough, for example).

Hanoumatoi · 08-24-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by irutan

I sure hope Blizz won't rush rogues changes again, PvE is in dire need of buffs, for PvP dunno much but i'd say leave it as it is, seems fine now. Just give us some Pve love, i'm tired of having to be online 1h before raidtime to fight for our only spot in raid with the other 4 rogues

Rogues are pretty boss on DPS at the moment. We bring 3 rogues, and one of them tops the meters every night in BT/MH. If you're concerned with rogue PvE dps on live, I'd recommend doing some theorycrafting, and practicing, and reading. It's in a very good spot, on live.