Official Talent Calculator Update - New Talent Changes

[WoRBot]

Official talent calculator updated - DK, Mage, Priest and Shaman Changes.

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[superjongen]

There's some interesting stuff incoming for balance druids I believe, or the cm's will just blatantly ignore their own topic ...

[ayech]

Sweet, that bugged calc for dk's was annoying :P

[Anykaschala]

I don't like this change for elemental shaman. The simple reason is that they are still pigeonholing them into doing the same thing they did in BC, LB's and CL, with lava burst, etc... just being secondary never used spells.

Bad move Blizz

[Huni]

I dont really understand the shaman changes... everything got nerfed or what? U sure u didnt misstype something there cause some abilities like Shamanistic Rage for example are not changed. (it gave mana equal to 15% of ur AP before so it wasnt nerfed from 30% to 15%)

[Teza]

Originally Posted by Huni

I dont really understand the shaman changes... everything got nerfed or what? U sure u didnt misstype something there cause some abilities like Shamanistic Rage for example are not changed. (it gave mana equal to 15% of ur AP before so it wasnt nerfed from 30% to 15%)

No mistype we compared WoWhead talent calc (build 8714) with the official one (build 8???).

WoWhead list Shamanistic Rage to give mana equal to 30% of your AP.

[Huni]

Originally Posted by Teza

No mistype we compared WoWhead talent calc (build 8714) with the official one (build 8???).

WoWhead list Shamanistic Rage to give mana equal to 30% of your AP.

Oh, ok sorry my bad.
So this means that Shamanistic Rage was buffed to 30% and now its reverted? So typical...

[Eckshale]

So, wolf summon as the new final tier talent?
Thats lame.. unless the wolves are equal to a hunter pet with beast spec... nah not even then.

[Huni]

Originally Posted by Eckshale

So, wolf summon as the new final tier talent?
Thats lame.. unless the wolves are equal to a hunter pet with beast spec... nah not even then.

Well they told us that the wolves will have stun and snare effects... if thats the case then im happy with them, altought some anti CC would be nice i hate spending 5 talent on toughtness. Its ridiculous that rogues get 50% movement reduce from 2 talent + 15% movement speed and we get it from 5 talent and insted of movement speed we get a perfectly worthless +10% armor its just hilarious.

[Anykaschala]

Originally Posted by Huni

Well they told us that the wolves will have stun and snare effects... if thats the case then im happy with them, altought some anti CC would be nice i hate spending 5 talent on toughtness. Its ridiculous that rogues get 50% movement reduce from 2 talent + 15% movement speed and we get it from 5 talent and insted of movement speed we get a perfectly worthless +10% armor its just hilarious.

basically everything you said has ALREADY been addressed. The imp ghost wolf talent gets rid of all movement impairing effects, what more anti-cc do you need?

I do agree toughness has always been a waste of talent points. Something here needs to change. As a talent it would only be useful if they change enhance to some kind of tanking spec, and then only if as a 5 point tree enhances armor by about 100%

[Eclipze]

Originally Posted by Anykaschala

I don't like this change for elemental shaman. The simple reason is that they are still pigeonholing them into doing the same thing they did in BC, LB's and CL, with lava burst, etc... just being secondary never used spells.

Bad move Blizz

I'm not understanding what yer trying to say. It's probably because i only know BC = Burning Crusade. But you're complaining a certain spec is being pigeonholed into a certain task or action?

Like a prot war can only tank?