Talent calculators updated - Mage, Shaman and Paladin changes!

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Talent calculators updated - Mage, Shaman and Paladin changes!

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[fusion]

nice to get that desperate heal off if needed :>

[canard]

Instant heals for enhance shamen! yay!

[findhor]

There's another change :

Arcane Impact used to increase crit from Arcane Explosion and Arcane Blast, but has been replace by Spell Impact, which also increases crit from Fire Blast, Blast Wave, Ice Lance and Cone of Cold.

Too bad they removed Potent Spirit, it was a nice idea to link Spirit and crit chance

[nilme]

So now, as an arcane mage, you can get a talent that increases by 30% your crit if you are clearcasting...but you dont need clearcasting to get it.
Expect a rollback soon, this would be the only ingame talent that is not linked to the skill it make it works. Either that or they will add an extra effect to it so it does something if you dont take clearcasting

[cheeff82]

Originally Posted by nilme

So now, as an arcane mage, you can get a talent that increases by 30% your crit if you are clearcasting...but you dont need clearcasting to get it.
Expect a rollback soon, this would be the only ingame talent that is not linked to the skill it make it works. Either that or they will add an extra effect to it so it does something if you dont take clearcasting

I'm pretty sure you still need to put some points in Arcane Concentration so that you can get a clearcast but not the full 5 points as it is now.

[elitenls]

It's sooooooo very nice to see Ret getting some love. The other classes too, but they don't affect me as much as changes to Paladins. I'm so very excited for this stuff to get finalized and released -- so far, I haven't seen a whole lot of "bad" or even "somewhat mediocre" effort go in to Paladins.

Holy is getting the buffs that are really needed, Prot is getting some nice enhancement, and Retribution is getting completely reworked in to what it should have been for a LONG ASS TIME now. It's good to see the developers do their jobs and make things right. I've never been one of those "Blizzard doesn't listen to it's customers" people; but it has been hard in the past not to at least think it for a split second or maybe even two seconds. This shows all those people are wrong.

Woot!

[Najeena]

If you take a look at all the new powerfull AE heals given to Druids, Paladins and Priest you will noticed they were toned down considerably as well....take a look.

[Cid]

I don't think Incanter's Absorption, located in the second-to-last tier of the arcane tree, is powerful or useful enough.

[ayech]

Sweet for retridins tbh, they might become actual useful in pvp :P

[Squito]

Originally Posted by elitenls

It's sooooooo very nice to see Ret getting some love. The other classes too, but they don't affect me as much as changes to Paladins. I'm so very excited for this stuff to get finalized and released -- so far, I haven't seen a whole lot of "bad" or even "somewhat mediocre" effort go in to Paladins.

Holy is getting the buffs that are really needed, Prot is getting some nice enhancement, and Retribution is getting completely reworked in to what it should have been for a LONG ASS TIME now.

While I agree that Ret is getting some much deserved love, I really don't think they did well with Holy/Prot. I see talents that reduce mana usage, reduces cast time etc.. but nothing exciting. The 51pt in prot just didn't make me go "Oh wow" like other classes. Hell, I'm unsure about the 51pt in holy.

Speaking of Holy, I hope they give us some new healing spells that are fun. I expected a major overhaul of the spec, but so far it seems mediocre.

[Ideon]

tbh i dont think i have ever seen so much love for ret palas...EVER!
finally we are getting some REAL raid utility no more will people say "retlol" every time i mention i'm dps, no more drama on trade...i actually think we are heading in a good direction

well...at least till they nurf us

[elitenls]

Originally Posted by Ideon

well...at least till they nurf us

QFT

[negatiiv]

Originally Posted by Cid

I don't think Incanter's Absorption, located in the second-to-last tier of the arcane tree, is powerful or useful enough.

My thoughts too. Having the opportunity to use fire ward or frost ward are fairly rare, and as any mage knows using mana shield is incredibly mana inefficient and absorbs so little damage that it's almost never used. This talent would be alright if used with ice barrier, but alas ice barrier is too deep in the frost tree to get both talents. I would definitely not take Incanter's Absorbtion when talenting my mage.

[AK47]

Seems they are actively working on WotLK.

As promise , they so far try to make every single tree viable in PvP and PvE.