Go Back   World of Raids Forums > Raid Roles & Classes > Physical DPS
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-08-2008, 10:59 AM
Seal Twisting #1
thefirekeeper
Amnennar the Coldbringer
 
thefirekeeper's Avatar
 
Khazan
Troll Shaman

<Rage of Ancients>
EU-Azjol-Nerub
I know this is a bug/glitch, but it's quite awesome and useful, so wondered if anyone knew how to do it, and could learn me?
Have tried to do it a couple of times, but havn't really had the luck

-Likira

Ps. On the front page

Last edited by thefirekeeper; 06-10-2008 at 06:03 PM.. Reason: Name
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 11:23 AM
#2
Brook
The Slacker
 
Brook's Avatar
 
Slomo
Undead Priest

<Panic>
EU-GrimBatol
exploiting a bug is a bannable offense, and the more that gets known about it the more likely it will get fixed.
__________________
Mensen, mensen wat een mensen zeiden de mensen toen de mensen de mensen tegen kwamen.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 11:36 AM
#3
Lumb
Edwin VanCleef
 
Tauren Shaman

EU-Kazzak
Sounds like it runs in the same vein of totem twisting, which is also a 'bug' which they intend to fix, but no bans will ever come of it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 12:19 PM
#4
Ideon
This title has been moved to Northrend.
 
Ideon's Avatar
 
Human Paladin

EU-Skullcrusher
seal twisting? what does it consist on? (tbh i never heard of it)
__________________
Threads like this are like car accidents, you just cant look away, you know its going to be bad, but you still have to look no matter what
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 12:21 PM
#5
Brook
The Slacker
 
Brook's Avatar
 
Slomo
Undead Priest

<Panic>
EU-GrimBatol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumb View Post
Sounds like it runs in the same vein of totem twisting, which is also a 'bug' which they intend to fix, but no bans will ever come of it.
true, there are no bans that we have heard of, but then again who will start shouting: OMG i was banned for exploiting...
__________________
Mensen, mensen wat een mensen zeiden de mensen toen de mensen de mensen tegen kwamen.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 12:40 PM
#6
GuuD
Where is Mankrik's wife?
 

Seal Twisting is a bug, that uses two following mechanics:
1) Ability of Seal of Command to proc other effects
2) Wrong timing of calculating wether SoC procced or not.
How to use it:
Use SoC, start attacking. When you see animation of swing finishes, reseal Seal of Blood. After some practice you will be cappable of getting such effect:
White swing hits, procs SoC. SoB procs of white swing, SoB procs of SoC. So, if SoC procced you got 1 White, 1 SoC and 2 SoB hits. IF SoC didnt proc - you just got your normal white+SoB.
How to use it in pve: Remove Judging from your cycle. Every third swing twist - it's really hard to use it more often, because you probably have loads of haste gear as a Blood Elf. Never judge, never Use SoC higher than rank 1.
For alliance ret paladins:
Impossible to get any real benefit from this bug. "Spell seals" (SoR, SoV) wont proc on twisting, and the only seal you can twist to is SoJ, but i doubt you will find it usefull.
My apologies for my english, not my native language.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 01:32 PM
#7
josko
Proud to use Gnogaine!
 
Maneken
Blood Elf Paladin

<O D J E B>
EU-Lightning's Blade
First thing: its not cheating its not bug and it cant make you to be banned.
Seal twisting isnt hard to use: Put seal of command(rank 1 is good less mana cost), wait for seal of command animation then change to other seal(if you are ally paladin then change to seal of justice- youll have chance to stun proc or if you are horde paladin change to seal of blood wich will give you 2 extra seal of blood dmg)
Helpfull addons for practice: quartz or ld_abar(both have swing timer), while using this addon you can predict when swing will come and then change to other seal.
Weapon to use: slower weapon means bigger chance for seal of command procs.
here is link of my firsts tries of seal twisting, movie arent good edited and it dont have some explanation but you can see what happens when seal of command procs + seal of blood, also second part of movie is with wf totem:
http://www.vimeo.com/1006065?pg=embed&sec=1006065
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 02:52 PM
#8
Narebeun
Where is Mankrik's wife?
 

Join; www.cromfel.battlefield.fi

it has been discussed to death there and conclusions were that it is EXTREMELY situational. You will in most cases end up with a dps decrease instead of an increase because of the nature of the game encounters, pvp usefulness and the mechanics of the skills.

If you want more indepth brainstorming about this, join the said forum and you'll find EVERYTHING you will need to know as a ret paladin.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 04:10 PM
#9
Bloodyhealer
Tribute to the King!
 
Bloodyhealer's Avatar
 
Night Elf Hunter

EU-Sylvanas
Quote:
Originally Posted by josko View Post
First thing: its not cheating its not bug and it cant make you to be banned.
Seal twisting isnt hard to use: Put seal of command(rank 1 is good less mana cost), wait for seal of command animation then change to other seal(if you are ally paladin then change to seal of justice- youll have chance to stun proc or if you are horde paladin change to seal of blood wich will give you 2 extra seal of blood dmg)
Helpfull addons for practice: quartz or ld_abar(both have swing timer), while using this addon you can predict when swing will come and then change to other seal.
Weapon to use: slower weapon means bigger chance for seal of command procs.
here is link of my firsts tries of seal twisting, movie arent good edited and it dont have some explanation but you can see what happens when seal of command procs + seal of blood, also second part of movie is with wf totem:
http://www.vimeo.com/1006065?pg=embed&sec=1006065
damn you must be able to do a shitload of dps with it ;o lolret
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 04:38 PM
#10
Bennzoo
Arcanist Doan
 
Gnome Rogue

EU-Al'Akir
when i watched that clip all i saw was numbers i can get with my 1 handers with a 3.8 swing timer in the middle of you screen.

anyway nice bug, exploit while it lasts.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 05:13 PM
#11
Kirion
Where is Mankrik's wife?
 

Law number one: Do not talk about seal twisting.

Law number two: Do not talk about seal twisting.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 06:43 PM
#12
Fadaar
Where is Mankrik's wife?
 

Hey I'm an Alliance paladin so I'm all for them fixing it. And giving Alliance SoB, in which case they then un-fix it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2008, 08:38 PM
#13
josko
Proud to use Gnogaine!
 
Maneken
Blood Elf Paladin

<O D J E B>
EU-Lightning's Blade
My gear isnt bad only problem is atm my BS 2h mace which arent anymore so good for raiding.
Paladin arent made for being no.1 on dps meter, its utility wich he provide dps is on second place, im mostly around 5-6th place with around 1k dps(ofc with good gr setup + wf totem).
Seal twisting is sometimes hard to use efiecent, especially on trash mobs or on events were you are cc or boss is on move.
But if you know when you use it can boost your dps.
Rouge in my eyes are 1 of top dps but as said pala isnt here to compete with them cause they provide huge boost/utility to others wich rouge cant.
In movie i didnt use all paladin dps cycle its 90% of time only swing + seal twisting(no spamming CS + Judgement)

Last edited by josko; 06-08-2008 at 08:47 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2008, 03:02 AM
#14
Qwi
Hogger
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by josko View Post
First thing: its not cheating its not bug and it cant make you to be banned.
Sorry buddy, but it is a bug, you are exploiting it, and so therefore you are cheating. Exploiting game bugs is a bannable offense. I'm not saying they'll ban you but the ToU would give them every right to if they had evidence of it and wanted to take action on it.

Have fun cheating while you still can.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2008, 04:35 AM
#15
Krispin149
Master Hokage
 
Krispin149's Avatar
 
Dwarf Warrior

US-Thunderhorn
at first I thought it would be cool to try on my alt paly, which happens to be an ally. I then saw the sequence and wanted to kill someone.
__________________
http://www.worldofraids.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=21965&dateline=1211994472
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.