aff locks in sunwell

dangle · 05-10-2008, 03:42 PM

So far in the most recent Sunwell kills over the last month or so, I see zero affliction locks in the raid. Seems that they all go destruction once gear permits. Is it a safe assumption that the extra DPS makes it worth dumping shadow embrace and an imp? I'm our guilds current aff lock, and wonder if it's worth it. I'm also our Illidan tank, so I would need to avoid putting points in nether protection. Are affliction locks obsolete in sunwell?

Lamina · 05-10-2008, 03:58 PM

I play a Hunter, so my info may be a bit skewed, but we run with 1 Aff lock for shadow embrace / malediction / imp, and the rest of our locks are all destro. The destro locks pump out some pretty high dps, and i don't think any of them picked up nether protection, in case they were required to tank illidan

QuiSiLoR · 05-10-2008, 04:08 PM

Affi locks if played well can be great assets to any raid. Imp for added HP to certain groups / tank.
Shadow Embrace & Malediction are also very handy for Destro locks spamming SB and also SP's.

So usually one... can be an addition .. but more than one well typically no

Heru · 05-10-2008, 05:12 PM

I've quit the game so I dont know about SW but I used to tank Illidan as destro and I didn't have points in Nether Protection. So dont worry about that

Baldassar · 05-10-2008, 05:22 PM

Affliction, even with the dps of malediction accounted for, has much lower dps than Destruction at that gear level as you probably know. The Sunwell fights were designed to be pretty tight about group lineup. An affliction lock cannot easily fit in a Brutallus raid due to dps, is not needed in Kalecgos or Eredar twins due to safe amounts of physical damage, hence would only be useful for one fight, Felmyst.
(i have no clue about M'uru)

Moreover, in my experience we are already having problems with debuff slots, judgments being thrown off, Demo as well, although our rogues have reluctantly stopped using deadly poison, and we use two SPs in brutallus as oposed to our original 3sp lineup.

SE is indeed a nice asset for the raid, as can be the imp and malediction, but it just doesn't fit.

Shuya · 05-10-2008, 05:40 PM

Nether Protection is just something that some destro locks like to choose because they don't like wasting points in Emberstorm (lol). We have a reliable lock to tank Illidan, so the rest of us just take nether protection and there's no complaints really.

And yeah, affliction locks become obsolete around High Warlord Najentus. =P

Xixa · 05-10-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shuya

Nether Protection is just something that some destro locks like to choose because they don't like wasting points in Emberstorm (lol). We have a reliable lock to tank Illidan, so the rest of us just take nether protection and there's no complaints really.

And yeah, affliction locks become obsolete around High Warlord Najentus. =P

actually nether protection is excellent in brutallus fight, if it procs on meteor slash you can immune the debuff which helps alot on healing, also soul leech helps alot too. when we need an illidan tank one of our locks specs for it, no biggie.

here's my build http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZbxszIbzZEx0tr0khhi

Jecet · 05-10-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shuya

Emberstorm (lol).

aren't some locks going emberstorm? it seems pretty viable if you have a bit of spellhaste. But hey what do I know I'm a rogue.

leeloo77 · 05-10-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jecet

aren't some locks going emberstorm? it seems pretty viable if you have a bit of spellhaste. But hey what do I know I'm a rogue.

the haste from emberstorm only applies to incinerate.

Jecet · 05-10-2008, 07:59 PM

I'm well aware of that... isn't that why so locks go a fire build as seen here :
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZdxczIbzZxx0tr0pVhi

cidji · 05-10-2008, 08:07 PM

i run affli lock for SW .But for the twins and m'uru , affli is very useless. All warlock are destruc now (no fire atm)

Jecet · 05-10-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cidji

i run affli lock for SW .But for the twins and m'uru , affli is very useless. All warlock are destruc now (no fire atm)

http://eu.wowarmory.com/charac...nilash&n=Xelnag

I think he or one of the other SK locks was fire during the twins fight, thats when i started looking into fire builds.

cidji · 05-10-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jecet

http://eu.wowarmory.com/charac...nilash&n=Xelnag

I think he or one of the other SK locks was fire during the twins fight, thats when i started looking into fire builds.

no fire lock in my guild atm :p

slayme · 05-10-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jecet

I'm well aware of that... isn't that why so locks go a fire build as seen here :
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZdxczIbzZxx0tr0pVhi

Hmm, why improved SB if you are fire? Cataclysm is better for dps then (less life tapping)

b1ackcat · 05-10-2008, 09:20 PM

I don't have a 70 lock, so I'm hoping someone can clear this up for me. Why would one not take Nether Protection for tanking illidan? does he lose aggro if you don't take his bolts or something?