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Old 07-29-2008, 07:50 PM
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Thanks Deployed adding it, you got Fire and Frost changes too ?
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:01 PM
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optin mails for europe too?
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:43 PM
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Erm regarding


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- Check your mailbox, a wave of beta invites for opt-ins has been sent (src)
If you read all of the Blue posts in that thread you get the idea that hes referring to the invites that went out when the beta went live since on his following posts he says that the new Opt-In invites (which will include all the WoW Dell, Blizzcon, WWI along with the random opt-ins) will go out within the week but not before August 1st.


So i guess the 2nd wave of opt-ins hasn't gone out yet, or i understood something wrong
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:58 PM
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Erm regarding




If you read all of the Blue posts in that thread you get the idea that hes referring to the invites that went out when the beta went live since on his following posts he says that the new Opt-In invites (which will include all the WoW Dell, Blizzcon, WWI along with the random opt-ins) will go out within the week but not before August 1st.


So i guess the 2nd wave of opt-ins hasn't gone out yet, or i understood something wrong
Some of my acquaintances (press/wwi/opt-ins) received a beta key today.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:21 PM
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Thanks Deployed adding it, you got Fire and Frost changes too ?
Here you go.

Fire
Tier 1

Improved Fire Blast - Moved from Tier 2
Was: "Reduces the cooldown of your Fire Blast spell by .5/1/1.5 sec."
Now: "Reduces the cooldown of your Fire Blast spell by 1/2 sec."

Incinerate - Moved from Tier 3 & renamed - Incineration
Was: "Increases the critical strike chance of your Fire Blast and Scorch spells by 2/4%"
Now: "Increases the critical strike chance of your Fire Blast, Scorch, Arcane Blast and Cone of Cold spells by 2/4/6%."

Tier 2

New Talent
Burning Determination
"When Interrupted or Silenced you have a 50/100% chance to become immune to both mechanics for 10 sec."

World In Flames - Moved from Tier 9
Was: "If a fire spell you cast hits 3 or more targets, the spell causes an additional 5/10/15% damage"
Now: "Increases the critical strike chance of your Flamestrike, Blast Wave, Dragon's Breath, Living Bomb, Blizzard and Arcane Explosion spells by 2/4/6%."

Tier 3

Flame Throwing - Moved from Tier 2

Impact - Moved from Tier 1

Tier 4

Improved Scorch
Was: "Your scorch spell has a 33/66/100% chance to cause your target to be vulnerable to fire damage. This vulnerability increases the fire damage dealt to your target by 3% and lasts for 30 secs. Stacks up to 5 times."
Now: "Your Scorch spells have a 33/66/100% chance to cause your target to be vulnerable to Fire, Frost and Arcane damage, increasing damage taken by 2% and lasts 30 sec. Stacks up to 5 times."

Master of Elements
Was: "Your Fire and Frost spell criticals will refund 10/20/30% of their base mana cost"
Now: "Your spell criticals will refund 10% of their base mana cost."

Tier 8

Fiery Payback
Was: "Increases damage caused by Molten Armor by 10/20% and whenever you resist a spell the caster takes 25/50% of any instant damage that would've been caused. Damage caused by Fiery Payback will not exceed 50% of the caster's health."
Now: "When below 35% health all Physical and Fire damage taken is reduced by 10/20% and your Pyroblast spell's cast time is reduced by 1.75/3.5 secs."

Empowered Fireball
Was: "Your Fireball spell gains an additional 3/6/9/12/15% of your bonus spell damage effects"
Now: "Increases the damage of your Fireball spell by an amount equal to 5/10/15% of your spell power."

Tier 9

New Talent
Firestarter (Requires Dragon's Breath)
"Your Blast Wave and Dragon's Breath spells have a 15/30/45% chance to make your next Flamestrike spell instant cast. Lasts 10 sec."

Dragon's Breath - Base damage values appear to have been reduced

Tier 11

Living Bomb - Base damage values appear to have been increased



Frost
Tier 1

Elemental Precision - (reworded for clarity)
Was: "Reduces the mana cost and chance targets resist your Frost and Fire spells by 1/2/3%"
Now: "Reduces the mana cost and increases your chance to hit with Frost and Fire spells by 1%."

Tier 4

Arctic Reach
Was: "Increases the range of your Frostbolt and Blizzard spells and the radius of your Frost Nova and Cone of Cold spells by 10/20%"
Now: "Increases the range of your Frostbolt, Ice Lance and Blizzard spells and the radius of your Frost Nova and Cone of Cold spells by 10/20%."

Tier 7

New Talent
Shattered Barrier
"Gives your Ice Barrier spell a 50/100% chance to trigger a Frost Nova when it is destroyed."

Ice Barrier - Base absorption values appear to have been reduced

Tier 9

Brain Freeze
Was: "Your Frost Nova and Frostbite effects also reduce the target's chance to hit with all attacks by 5/10/15%"
Now: "Your Frost damage spells have a 5/10/15% chance to cause your next Fireball spell to be instant cast and cost no mana."

Tier 10

Chilled to the Bone
Was: "Increases the damage caused by your Frostbolt and Ice Lance spells by 1/2/3/4/5% and reduces the movement speed of all chilled targets by an additional 2/4/6/8/10%."
Now: "Increases the damage caused by your Frostbolt, Frostfire Bolt and Ice Lance spells by 1/2/3/4/5% and reduces the movement speed of all chilled targets by an additional 2/4/6/8/10%."

Tier 11

Deep Freeze
Was: "253 mana 30 yd range
1.5 sec cast 30 sec cooldown
Stuns the target for 5 sec. Only usable on Frozen targets."
Now: "8% of base mana 30 yd range
1.5 sec cast 30 sec cooldown
Causes 694 to 806 Frost damage and stuns the target for 5 sec. Only usable on Frozen targets."

I hope the spelling is accurate. And just a note, this is just me comparing the official beta Talent Calculators and the current WotLK.WoWhead one.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:36 PM
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Some of my acquaintances (press/wwi/opt-ins) received a beta key today.
Oh ok then.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:37 PM
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:05 PM
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Fire & Frost added, thanks Deployed.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:05 PM
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Well, thanks Deployed, it's very much appreciated.

But I really don't know what to say. No matter how much I try to refresh or anything, my wowhead talent calculators still show the really outdated one ... Oh well *shrug*
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:22 PM
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This may be a silly question, but what link are you using? The one's Teza has given or your own? You may just need to change a browser setting so it looks for new content everytime you view a web page. I remember shift+F5 woring with IE back in 2000 in order to perform a "hard" refresh, or something similar.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:27 PM
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Well, thanks Deployed, it's very much appreciated.

But I really don't know what to say. No matter how much I try to refresh or anything, my wowhead talent calculators still show the really outdated one ... Oh well *shrug*
try ctrl+f5
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:05 PM
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I saw these in spell database a while back, and it looks like they're implemented. I'm guessing you gain levels at the buff at the end of each rung of mastery of the profession, so you gain the final level of these buffs once you hit 450. The first pic is from mining, second is from skinning. Both are found as passive abilities in the General tab of your spellbook.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/907/toughnr6.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2345/anatga1.jpg
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:44 AM
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Jesus, it's a beta guys.
All the more reason to acknowledge it and create a discussion and give feedback (although I admit I could have structured my comment to be less whiny).

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I still disagree that it's a game breaking change.
I don't think anybody here said it was, but beyond knee jerk reactions, the change doesn't look good. There isn't much in the way of evidence to counteract/balance it aside from "well they could do this..." They often do things that are just straight up nerfs and it isn't absurd to treat something like a nerf when there isn't any other information.

Honestly, it probably won't be that big of a deal.

Edit: heehehe looked at mmo-champion, saw mana/energy change! maybe you are right =)

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Old 07-30-2008, 12:57 AM
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wow bhoris, i didnt know those were gonna be implemented. thats really cool. not the biggest buffs of course, but it give professions more purpose and even makes them a tad class specific
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:48 AM
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wow bhoris, i didnt know those were gonna be implemented. thats really cool. not the biggest buffs of course, but it give professions more purpose and even makes them a tad class specific
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