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Old 05-05-2008, 02:26 PM
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Tezaa
Where is Mankrik's wife?
 
Teza
Undead Rogue

Tanking Achievement, SWP Progress, M'uru loot table, Comics


Update: We found two new pieces of info regarding Kil'jaeden encounter on Blizzard support page.

Q: Hunter's Mark not shown on Shield Orbs during the Kil'Jaeden encounter
A: The Hunter's Mark is applied correctly, but is not shown as a graphical effect. You can verify the Hunter's Mark is active by looking at the Shield Orbs' debuffs. (src)

Q: We are not able to attack Kil'Jaeden after a failed attempt
A: This can occur when the last player disappears without being killed by Kil'Jaeden, this could be due to deaths by other monsters, suicide spells or spells that remove you from combat. (src)


Rogue tanks Mother Shahraz from 100 to 0

A rogue Gaeowyn from guild Shards of Existence made a rather staggering achievement, he tanked Mother Shahraz (seventh boss in Black Temple) from 100 to 0%. Click on the picture below if you wish to see the movie.



How did he do this? Well he basically stacked loads of agility to max his % dodge.

My stats while raid buffed?
76.31% dodge
12.16% parry
14.16% to be missed
1250 agility
900-1000 TPS (Threat Per Second)

Breaking the cap was the easy part. Fitting as much expertise rating as I possibly could (for tps and dps) while staying above the cap was more tricky, and was ultimately the goal of this project. I would have liked to finish off a 19x delicate crimson spinel set to upgrade a few other slots, but this does alright for now.


FAQ:
Q. No heightened senses or enveloping shadows for reducing spell damage on your armory build?
A. I only have 1 talent point to spare for either enveloping shadows, master of subtlety, or heightened senses. I went with increased damage after breaking stealth for the next boss I'm doing (5-man gruul). Otherwise, I rate heightened senses above enveloping shadows.

Q. Buff/Debuff list?
A. Grilled Mudfish, Scroll of Agility V, Elixir of Major Agility, Imp MOTW, Imp GoA, Blessing of Kings, NE Racial (1% dodge), Scorpid Sting, Insect Swarm, 5% base miss for a boss.

(via Nihilum)


Reminder: M'uru loot table

Edit: Links changed to have item tooltips.

Yesterday, we have been able to discover several new items belonging to M'uru loot table:

• Muramasa (Sword - One Hand)
• Gauntlets of the Soothed Soul (Plate)
• Sin'dorei Band of Salvation (Ring)
• Sin'dorei Band of Dominance (Ring)
• Sin'dorei Band of Triumph (Ring)
• Ring of Hardened Resolve (Ring)
• Ring of Omnipotence (Ring)
• Shifting Naaru Sliver (Trinket)
• Steely Naaru Sliver (Trinket)
• Blackened Naaru Sliver (Trinket)
• Glimmering Naaru Sliver (Trinket)


Sunwell Plateau - Guild Progression

One US guild (Exodus) reported a 8% wipe on M'uru phase 2 (9% for Nihilum), so we though it's time to update the Guild progression chart (there will be another incremental update for the next M'uru kills).

M'uru (LT)

EU servers
1. SK-Gaming, Vek'nilash EU (02:55 CET) - World First

US servers
1. TBD

The Eredar Twins (LT)

EU servers
1. Nihilum, Magtheridon EU (17:57 CET) - World First
2. SK Gaming, Vek'nilash EU (21:55 CET)
3. Method, Sylvanas EU

US servers
1. Premonition, Alleria US
2. Deus Vox, Laughing Skull US
3. V A N Q U I S H, Cho'Gall US

Felmyst (LT)

EU servers
1. SK Gaming, Vek'nilash EU (18:10 CET) - World First
2. Inner Sanctum, Silvermoon EU
3. Failure, Magtheridon EU

US servers
1. Premonition, Alleria US
2. V A N Q U I S H, Cho'gall US
3. Vodka, Mannoroth US

Brutallus (LT)

EU servers
1. SK Gaming, Vek'nilash EU (15:31 CET)
2. Inner Sanctum, Silvermoon EU
3. For The Horde, Destromath EU

US servers
1. Blood Legion, Illidan US - World First
2. Premonition, Alleria US
3. V A N Q U I S H, Cho'gall US

Kalecgos (LT)

EU servers
1. SK Gaming, Vek'nilash EU - (14:26 CET)
2. In Harmony, Thrall EU
3. Heist, Stormreaver EU
US servers
1. V A N Q U I S H, Cho'gall US (6:33pm EST) - World First
2. Transcended, Blackhand US
3. Vodka, Mannoroth US


Comics

A new Dark Legacy is out.


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Old 05-05-2008, 03:25 PM
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mascotte
Where is Mankrik's wife?
 

The rogue vid is brilliant, to bad this will be nerfed soon now <img src="./images/smileys/happy.gif" title=":)" alt=":)" /><br />
Credits for the idea/execution tho :P
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:28 PM
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Zwei
Where is Mankrik's wife?
 

Whoa, I remember seeing that rogue in my old Battlegroup before.
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:34 PM
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BojaN
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Reminds me of lvl 11 dodge twink, lol.
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:53 PM
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JackLamon
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So what's comming next? Mage tanking her? ;P
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:10 PM
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koenigsegg
Deathcharger's Reins
 
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Dwarf Warrior

EU-Shadowsong
Now ppl maybe understand why some items get less stats (not a big diffrence on a single item, but on all slots you have it makes BIG diffrence). <img src="./images/smileys/happy.gif" title=":)" alt=":)" /><br />
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A tanking rogue is awsome, lewl. <img src="./images/smileys/happy.gif" title=":)" alt=":)" /> And I bet that Gruul 5-man is possible with rogue as tank. Read much about it already. Was just suprised that MS was the first one to get tanked instead. <img src="./images/smileys/bigmouth.gif" title=":D" alt=":D" />
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:24 PM
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Gauldar
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The should have no reason to nerf this concidering the amount of streamlined effort it takes to do this. My hat goes off to this player to break the mould of a DPS specific class. There are so many rogues out there and fewer and fewer tanks, we need more players like this.
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:56 PM
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Haxxored
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I fail to see how they would nerf this without breaking the rogue class.<br />
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Once you get above 300 hit rating the stat to stack for end game rogue dps is agi. Also rogues don’t get any larger dodge rate from agi than any other class 30 agi = 1% dodge. To nerf the agi to dodge conversion would cripple feral druids.<br />
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Only way to "fix" this is to change the hit mechanics on boss mobs, making certain swings unavoidable. This will undoubtedly increase damage taken on all tanks but what ever it takes to make sure dps classes know their roll.<br />
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BTW why is it alright for warlocks and mages to tank mobs but a rogue shows he's capable at tanking and everyone has to nerf them?
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:13 PM
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agamina
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_title">Citation (<a href="./index.php?p=topic&amp;p_id=115610#p115610">Haxxored, 05 Mai 2008, 17:56</a>)</div><div class="quote_content">I fail to see how they would nerf this without breaking the rogue class.<br />
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Once you get above 300 hit rating the stat to stack for end game rogue dps is agi. Also rogues don&#x2019;t get any larger dodge rate from agi than any other class 30 agi = 1% dodge. To nerf the agi to dodge conversion would cripple feral druids.<br />
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Only way to "fix" this is to change the hit mechanics on boss mobs, making certain swings unavoidable. This will undoubtedly increase damage taken on all tanks but what ever it takes to make sure dps classes know their roll.<br />
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BTW why is it alright for warlocks and mages to tank mobs but a rogue shows he's capable at tanking and everyone has to nerf them?</div></div><br />
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Maybe you should check that page -> <a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Dodge" class="fsbcode_url" title="http://www.wowwiki.com/Dodge" target="_blank">http://www.wowwiki.com/Dodge</a>
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:24 PM
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vulmio
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Would this rogue tanking work with Gurtogg ?
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:33 PM
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Eternity
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Well i fail to see the point to have a 900-1000 tps tank where we need for exemple 1500 tps on bruta and even more with more gear (prolly 1800+ tps).
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:35 PM
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vulmio
Edwin VanCleef
 

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_title">Citation (<a href="./index.php?p=topic&amp;p_id=115620#p115620">Eternity, 05 Mai 2008, 18:33</a>)</div><div class="quote_content">Well i fail to see the point to have a 900-1000 tps tank where we need for exemple 1500 tps on bruta and even more with more gear (prolly 1800+ tps).</div></div><br />
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This will never work on any Sunwell boss because of the radiance, that's not the point of this player.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:32 PM
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JackLamon
Where is Mankrik's wife?
 

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_title">Citation (<a href="./index.php?p=topic&amp;p_id=115610#p115610">Haxxored, 05 Mai 2008, 17:56</a>)</div><div class="quote_content"> BTW why is it alright for warlocks and mages to tank mobs but a rogue shows he's capable at tanking and everyone has to nerf them?</div></div><br />
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Nah, don't get it wrong. Mage/Warlock tanking is sometimes a kind of required boss mechanic where you can't put a melee class on. Twin Emps somebody? Those were the times... ^^<br />
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But a rogue tanking a boss is just some kind of 'fun encounter' which is way beyond anything a normal guild would consider to do while they're still progressing.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:33 PM
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onerustyking
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pfft. wtb resto rogue video.<br />
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<img src="./images/smileys/winkle.gif" title=";)" alt=";)" />
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:35 PM
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doozer667
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Yep, the trash debuff pretty much ends the chance for him to do that.<br />
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Although I'd love to see more rogues attempt something like this if they have the time/gear. It might be even viable in WOTLK.. but doubtful considering there's going to already be another tanking class and because the amount of defenses needed to survive encounters will only rise.
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